James Browne

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I thank the Deputies for their contributions. I have considered the Labour Party motion. The Government has presented its countermotion on child poverty and homelessness, which shows our determination to drive down the child poverty rates, increase supports for families and tackle family homelessness. We have outlined the significant progress we have made and reinforced our firm commitment to delivering more progress on these critical issues. Ireland has seen extraordinary social and economic progress over the previous four decades. Reductions in poverty, alongside improvements to living standards, have demonstrated the transformative potential of collective action. However, despite these schemes, poverty persists and inequalities remain. Many people struggle to make ends meet and remain one misfortune away from falling into poverty. Strengthening the resilience of households and communities to prevent people descending into poverty is crucial. That is why the Government is determined to address poverty, and child poverty in particular. I recognise that while figures and statistics and crucial for measuring progress, they are certainly not the full picture. Behind the statistics, figures and percentages are real people with daily lived experiences of poverty, deprivation and exclusion. Indeed, the highly progressive Irish taxation system and social transfers are extremely effective at redistributing income and are recognised as one of the most effective at poverty alleviation in the EU. From an international perspective and according to Eurostat, Ireland's at-risk-of-poverty rate fell from 13.4% in 2022 to 12.3% in 2024. This remained below the EU 27 average of 16%, with Ireland's ranking improving from seventh in 2022 to fifth in 2024. Ireland continued to be the best-performing country in the EU in the context of reducing poverty and inequality through social transfers in 2024. Social transfers reduced at the risk of poverty rate by 62.7% in Ireland, substantially higher than the EU average of 34.1%. While Ireland's system of social transfers is among the best performing across the EU, the Government and I are conscious that we must continue to strive to do more and assist those families who are in poverty. The latest poverty data from the Central Statistics Office is disappointing and shows us that investing in child poverty must be a continual process. We also must remember this data does not reflect the Government's full response to child poverty in 2024 and 2025 through budget and other measures. The Taoiseach spoken about the need to deal with child poverty holistically if we are to have a decisive impact. He has also reiterated his determination that this Government would do everything it can to remove the hurdles facing too many children experiencing poverty, to make the rates fair and to give every child an equal start. It is important to recognise that Ireland continues to make great progress in cross-national comparisons across EU member states in terms of addressing poverty and social inclusion. Reducing child poverty is not only crucial for our children, it is also important for our communities and country to ensure a fairer and more cohesive society. Our determination to reduce child poverty is reflected in the delivery of our programme for Government commitments to date and the establishment of the child poverty and well-being programme office in the Department of the Taoiseach, the setting of a new and ambitious child poverty target, unprecedented increases in core social welfare rates and targeted payments that support families and children most in need and investment in key programmes and initiatives, such as the hot school meals and free schoolbooks programme. We are fully aware of the work that remains to be done over the lifetime of this Government and beyond to reduce child poverty, and we are committed to this. In the context of budget 2026, the Government has made clear the importance of focusing investment and resources to families with children where it is most needed. In making our budgetary decisions, targeted measures aimed at tackling child poverty and reducing homelessness will be at the core. In relation to income support, our key focus will be on existing targeted measures that we know work, such as the child support and working family payments. In line with our programme for Government commitments, we are continuing to explore a targeted child benefit payment, and, as the Minister, Deputy Calleary, said, while work is under way, a second-tier payment is complex and will take time to get right. As a result, it will not be announced as part of budget 2026. In tackling child poverty, it is essential that we do so by means of a cross-government approach. For example, this includes focusing on targeted measures in relation to homelessness and housing. The additional €15 million that I allocated to my Department in the past few weeks for a second-hand acquisitions budget is a clear and unambiguous reflection of the Government’s commitment in this regard. When I became Minister, there was €60 million available for second-hand acquisitions. It is now the middle of September, and that has increased to €375 million already. This additional funding complements a range of other measures to address long-term homelessness and will, as I said, be ring-fenced and targeted at acquisitions that support families, primarily those larger families with children, to exit long-term emergency accommodation into housing. Together with income supports and measures relating to homelessness and housing in budget 2026 and beyond, I will continue to concentrate on expanding the vital services in our communities. However, we cannot achieve everything in a single budget. Tackling child poverty and homelessness will require a concerted and continued effort over the lifetime of this Government. That is a firm commitment, as the Taoiseach outlined in the context of child poverty and well-being earlier this month. We know that we have work to do, and we are determined to do it. On housing, in the national development plan that was recently announced, one in every three euro will now be spent on delivering housing. That money will go either into the Department of housing or into Uisce Éireann to facilitate water to deliver housing. It is an extraordinary level of funding. I hear Opposition TDs saying that we are not spending enough money. Those same TDs now need to indicate what they would cut. Would they cut funding from education?

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Would they cut money from our hospitals or from the roads budget?

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Where are they going to take the money from?

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Where are you going to take the money from?

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You are not going to shut me down, so please let me say-----

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I did not interrupt you, so let me-----

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Look----

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Thank you very much. We might look at the tenant in situ scheme. I am trying to square what Deputy Bacik said yesterday during Leaders' Questions, because the criteria in the circular I introduced earlier in the year put the focus on local authorities to prioritise families. The Deputy criticised that at the time. She said that single people were being singled out and left behind. Labour Party TDs did that. Yesterday, she demanded that I do what I did in my circular, which is to prioritise families. It is just bizarre, and I suspect she just did not actually read the circular that went out to local authorities,or what her own TDs said when it was announced-----

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-----because that circular prioritises families, which she criticised me for doing. In relation to the Labour Party's motion, we have a demand-led tenant in situ scheme, which is what the Deputy wants. We have nearly 60,000 HAP and RAS tenancies. The Labour Party is well north of €20 billion, yet it has not quantified its position or said where that money will come from. Once again, it is more magic numbers, like the 1 million houses it is going to build, and not a single acknowledgement of its record when last in government, when in five years it managed to turn a housing crisis of too many houses into one of too few.

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Those who warned the Labour Party about the mistakes it was making-----

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Those who warned the Labour Party when it was in government of the crisis it was creating-----

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-----in the context of turning too many houses into too few, what did it do? It criticised the likes of Peter McVerry instead of listening to those warnings. It did not realise what was happening. That is what it did-----

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It is absolutely is extraordinary-----

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Can I ask the Deputies to just read the circular that went out to the local authorities and realise what it does? It prioritises families. I know the Labour Party's motion does not talk about prioritising children because whichever of its researchers wrote probably did read it. I ask the Deputies to read it as well. As I said, there has been €375 million for second-hand acquisitions already this year. That is what our focus is on, but we cannot solve the housing crisis and the homelessness crisis by buying up existing properties. The solution is building more homes and more social homes.

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That is what the Government and I are doing. We are also delivering more and more funding. Again, however, I ask the Deputies to put forward some numbers in the context of what they are proposing to do here. A few facts might actually help the situation. This is a quick one for Sinn Féin. Its housing policy says to slash the tenant in situ scheme. The policy is available online. It is there in black and white. Sinn Féin wants to cut it down because it recognises what tenant situ was meant to be.

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Tenant in situ was always meant to be a temporary measure, which is even recognised in Sinn Féin's housing policy.

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It is extraordinary that as I try to speak for a few minutes-----

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-----everybody has tried to shout me down.

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-----because they do not want to hear facts. It does not suit the social media narrative pop-up to get the 30 seconds. They do not want to engage with the facts-----

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-----or the figures.

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That is the problem.

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Look at your own housing policy-----

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Look at your own housing policy.

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I am very conscious of every one of those children-----

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-----and I will do absolutely everything to end child homelessness in this country-----

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-----and I am going to get those children out of homelessness-----

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-----and what will do that are decisive decisions that I am making-----

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-----and not the rhetoric-----

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----- from the likes of yourselves over there who do not want to engage in facts-----

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-----and who want to-----

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-----promise people rainbows-----

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-----and do not actually want to provide practical solutions.

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