88. Deputy Darren O'Rourke asked the Minister for Education and Youth the number of notifications through the NCSE's parent notify portal by the 1 October 2025 deadline; the number of parents who have contacted the NCSE after the deadline with a recommendation for a special class or a special school place; the way in which both categories of applications, pre- and post 1 October, will be progressed; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [71048/25]
The Government is committed to the accelerated provision of additional special class and special school places next year by providing at least 3,000 new places in locations where it best meets existing and future demand. The provision of timely information is a key requirement to support the forward planning of new special education provision.
The National Council for Special Education is the statutory body tasked with sanctioning new special education provision in our schools. The council is reviewing and assessing information provided through the parents' notification process, which closed on 1 October. I understand that the National Council for Special Education will commence sanctioning new special classes for 2026-27 this week, which is four months ahead of last year.
The new timeline of 1 October was publicised widely and communicated to schools, special education advocacy groups and parent representative bodies. The council also undertook a lot of work at local level to ensure that families were aware of the timeline and the process. This earlier date in October coincides with when schools begin enrolment processes and so affords parents the opportunity to enrol in existing classes. Many mainstream schools, particularly at post-primary level, commence admissions processes for the following school year on 1 October annually.
The council advises that the majority of children and young people coming through the parents notify process and seeking a special class or a special school place for the 2026-27 school year are already enrolled in school and are being supported by existing special education teachers and special needs assistants.
As with other applications for support, it is important that those who come forward after the closing date are assured that they are not forgotten or excluded from the system.
I stress that the council will continue to support all children made known to it after 1 October in their existing placement with appropriate supports. At the same time, it is critical that the council has as much local information as possible as early as possible to effectively plan new provision.
Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire Stáit, but he did not answer the question I asked. If he had done, he would have given me some numbers. He would have given me the numbers notified through the portal by 1 October and the numbers that have contacted the NCSE. Does he have those figures? It is a terrible reflection on the system if he does not have them because the whole point of this new procedure is that we have a system that accounts for demand. Does the Minister of State have those figures, and if so, what are they? That will give us a clear picture of the demand that has been indicated and the impact. There is lots of concern that people missed the deadline because they did not have a recommendation or were not aware of the deadline. It is the first year of it. I ask the Minister of State to give us some indication of that if he can.
On the deadline, there was a huge amount of concern, particularly over recent years, that we were not planning properly for special classes and special schools in an early and a timely fashion. We brought forward the 1 October deadline and announced that earlier this year to bring greater clarity and certainty because families last year, particularly in the March-April period, were fierce frustrated not knowing what the future held in education terms for their children. We brought forward the 1 October deadline. The deadline was put in place to ensure we knew what the demand was for 1 September 2026. Those figures are being gone through meticulously to make sure that the classes are opened where the demand is and that we understand where the demand is. A lot of that work is ongoing. We hope to announce a number of the classes this week, but there is a huge amount of work still going through where the numbers are. The engagement between the council and the families is ongoing.
I might come back on a few of the other issues the Deputy raised.
This has been the experience for a couple of years now but I must say that I absolutely despair at the lack of basic information for Opposition TDs and the general public on this point. Earlier this week, another curveball or grenade - call it whatever you want - was thrown into the system and has caused major concern. That is the issue of what is now a recommendation. What does it mean for children and assessments of need this year and next? The Irish National Teachers Organisation, INTO, said yesterday that it was deeply disappointed. It said this was an act of bad faith and that the Departments of education and children and equality did not consult the INTO. It seems that the Department of children and its Minister are saying that in the future, the Department of education will reach an agreement. What exactly is the state of affairs there? Teachers and principals contact us regularly. They are deeply concerned that they will have an additional responsibility that many feel they are not qualified to deliver.
For the assessment of need and because of the challenges we face, there is no doubt but that we need to move away from the model we have. We need to get therapists to children faster and not be tied up in too much bureaucracy. There has been a huge push to have assessments of need. Right now, you do not need an assessment of need to access education. A lot of work has been done, and I know that officials are meeting education partners today to bring clarity on the very question asked by the Deputy. We will certainly bring extreme clarity. If this system is to work within education, all our education partners must have bought in, including the teacher unions and people right across the education spectrum. Every one of those people plays a significant role in special education. I assure the Deputy that intense work is ongoing at the moment to ensure we bring absolute clarity to the roles involved in decision-making, and that decisions are guided by the best possible outcomes for children. Those will be finalised. We will update the House when those issues are agreed between the various education partners.
89. Deputy Eoghan Kenny asked the Minister for Education and Youth the plans to deliver pension parity for school secretaries and caretakers as of December 2025; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [70181/25]
I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Michael Moynihan, for securing a school bus for Rahan National School. That is essential, and I thank him for his work. We have worked extremely closely on that school bus.
No doubt there will be a list of Members later on.
I wish to focus on secretaries and caretakers across the country and their pension parity and leave entitlements.
I thank the Deputy for his kind comments, although I noted a "but" towards the end of them. In recent months, while I have been in this role, I have seen right across the Chamber the commitment to education of all the spokespersons and Members of the House. The Deputy did a huge amount of work in relation to the Rahan school bus. That is what all of us should be doing because the future of our people rests on education and how to get it. We were delighted to work with the Deputy on that matter.
School secretaries and caretakers are at the heart of the school and are the key interface between students, parents, school leaders and other members of teams within schools. They play a pivotal role and should be treated with the same respect as is afforded to all other members of a school's staff. Without them, our schools would be unsustainable. In supporting these vital school staff members, we also support the school community as a whole.
The Department is committed to ensuring that school caretakers will be afforded the opportunity to avail of a similar package which was offered to school secretaries on foot of an agreement reached in the Workplace Relations Commission, WRC, in 2022. My Department has been engaging with Fórsa over the past number of weeks under the auspices of the WRC and with the Department of Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation in relation to a number of claims, including a claim for a comparable pension entitlement. The matter has now been referred to the Labour Court and a hearing will take place on 12 January 2026. The parties remain in process and my Department remains committed and ready to engage with Fórsa to reach a resolution on this important matter.
The Deputy will understand that as with any industrial relations process where engagement is sensitive and complex, the matters under discussion are confidential until this process concludes.
The Minister of State said that the same package that was agreed with secretaries will be offered to caretakers. That package is a load of rubbish. I would not even offer it to the caretakers. It is a matter of disrespect. I would not offer it to them.
I know, and the Minister of State knows that I know, about this issue first hand. I live at home with my grandmother, who has been a secretary for nearly 30 years. She is the longest serving staff member at St. Patrick's Boys' National School in Mallow. She will not be entitled to a pension. That is the difficulty. She is 70 years old and does not feel like she can retire because of that income. It is the same for a lot of secretaries and caretakers across the country. The matter has been to the Labour Court and the WRC. What engagement is the Department having with the secretaries and caretakers, and with Fórsa? The Minister of State referred to a possible resolution that the Department will come up with. What is the resolution that the Department is putting forward?
To be absolutely fair, a Labour Court hearing will take place on 12 January 2026 and it would be against all procedures for me to come in here and undermine negotiations that are ongoing and the detailed work that is going on. As I said at the outset, I understand the position of the caretakers and secretaries, and I understand the Deputy's person involvement in the issue. I compliment his grandmother and others who have kept education running in many communities. When you walk into a school, the school secretary is the person who knows the heartbeat of the school.
There is engagement between the Department, Fórsa and the Department of public expenditure, as would be the case for any such issue. The matter is before the Labour Court on 12 January, and it is important that we allow the process to continue. The Department very much values caretakers and secretaries across the school system.
I appreciate the Minister of State's response and I am sure that my grandmother would appreciate the kind comments. What we do not want is what happened at the beginning of this academic year, when secretaries and caretakers were outside schools and the Dáil Chamber, protesting for fairness, dignity and respect. That is what this is about. Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael backbenchers were standing outside schools, getting into pictures and showing off that they were in support of secretaries and caretakers. I do not doubt their individual bona fides on the issue but I doubt the commitment of the Government, the Department of Education and Youth and the Department of public expenditure to providing that respect, dignity and equality to those secretaries and caretakers across the country. It is predominantly women who are affected. Those of an older generation are affected. I ask the Minister of State not to let down these secretaries and caretakers. I plead with him. Let this be his involvement in this Department. Let securing respect, dignity and entitlements for all secretaries and caretakers across the country be his legacy in the Department.
We in the Department, across the Government and across the House support secretaries and caretakers. Earlier this year when they went as far as industrial action, many people stood with them because they understood and accepted the importance of caretakers and secretaries to school communities. It is important that we give that voice across the House, whether those speaking are in government or in opposition. We must give a voice to the issue because it gives a clear indication to us and the Department of the strength of support that secretaries and caretakers have across the House.
As I said, there is ongoing engagement with the Labour Court at the moment and there will be a hearing on 12 January. I assure the Deputy that we are committed to finding a meaningful resolution and ensuring that the roles of caretakers and secretaries within school communities are appreciated. We understand the importance of them.
90. Deputy Darren O'Rourke asked the Minister for Education and Youth the number of schools referred to the financial service support unit in 2023-24, 2024-25 and to date in the 2025-26 school year; the measures she is taking to support schools financially through the winter in the absence of a cost-of-living package this year; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [71049/25]
I wish to ask the Minister of State the number of schools referred to the financial support services unit in the academic year 2023-24, 2024-25 and to date in 2025-26 and the measures he is taking to support schools financially through this winter in the absence of a cost-of-living package.
The Government is committed to increasing funding to support schools and the programme for Government commits to increasing capitation funding to schools of all types to ensure they can meet day-to-day running costs. Schools have autonomy in their spending, allowing them to make decisions on spending independently at school level. The financial support services unit, FSSU, funded by the Department is an important source of advice and support to schools on financial matters, including budgeting and cash flow management. In circumstances where a school is in financial difficulty, the Department requests the FSSU to carry out an evaluation of the financial position in the school. The Department is committed to offering all available and appropriate supports to these schools, which may include an advance in capitation grant funding, or other measures, as may be appropriate. As a result of such evaluations, a small number of schools required an advance in capitation grant funding to be paid to address immediate cash flow issues. The Department continues to liaise with the FSSU regarding supports and guidance to all schools.
In the 2023-24 school year, 31 schools were referred to the unit and two received an advance in capitation grant funding. In the 2024-25 school year, 61 schools were referred to the FSSU and 17 received an advance in capitation grant funding. In the 2025-26 school year to date, 18 schools were referred to the FSSU and nine received an advance in capitation grant funding. The Department has secured €39 million in budget 2026 towards increased capitation funding for primary, post-primary and special schools. This will result in the standard rates increasing from €224 to €274 for primary schools and from €386 to €406 for post-primary schools. The increases in the budget are in addition to the 12% increases as part of budget 2025. The last three budgets have resulted in an increase in the level of capitation grant rates of almost 50% paid to primary schools and approximately 28% paid to post-primary schools.
I thank the Minister of State for those figures, but they paint a picture that is a very stark one in terms of the financial challenge schools are going through. Regarding those numbers, we are not at Christmas yet and we have 18 schools referred to the FSSU so far this year and nine that have needed advanced payments. A number of schools, including Darver in neighbouring County Louth, have been high-profile in terms of the financial challenge they are facing.
Regarding the Minister of State's figures on the capitation and the funding, schools are worse off in real terms because of the lack of a cost-of-living package this year. There is a net reduction in the funding for them when we take out the cost-of-living package. Will the Minister of State look at introducing a cost-of-living package for schools this year in light of the cost of energy, insurance and heating?
The next capitation grant payments due to primary and post-primary schools will be paid in January 2026. The Department is committing to offering all available and appropriate supports to schools experiencing financial difficulties and advises any such schools to engage early with the Department and FSSU. We increased them, and I think it is important that we put a long-term footing in place in relation to the capitation grants and that there is not just a once-off approach but a sensible way of making sure the capitation grant money meets the demands in schools. I can stress, though, that the Department is working extremely hard to engage with all school communities. Any school community that has difficulties should liaise as early as possible with the FSSU and the Department because we are there to help guide and resolve issues they may have at local level.
Costs are increasing and, in real terms, last year capitation per student in primary schools was €236 and €400 per student in post-primary schools. That is when we take the capitation and the cost-of-living aspects into account. This year, it is €224 per student at primary level versus €236 last year, while at secondary level, it is €386 per student compared with €400 last year. That is a net decrease in real terms at a time when costs are increasing. Is it any wonder increasing numbers of schools are being referred to the FSSU? In addition, €23 million is being raised through voluntary contributions to subsidise so-called free education. That is not evenly distributed, so we know there are many schools that do not have access to that option and are in deep, deep trouble. I do not get a sense that there is a recognition from the Government in this regard. It needs to introduce a cost-of-living package for schools.
The capitation grant increases in several budgets in recent years have been there. This means there is a serious commitment to education right across the system. We have record funding in the Department to meet the needs of student communities and make sure they have the best possible outcomes. Investment in education continues. This is the case whether it is in special or mainstream education, and the Government is very much committed to it. We are not blind to the challenges at school gates or in school communities, and we have engaged very thoroughly with school communities that have faced financial challenges over the last number of years and again this year. The increase in the capitation grant gives a sense of where we are at with it. Huge funding is also being given right across the spectrum. I have to push back on the suggestion that we do not understand what is going on in education. We do understand it and we are investing in education.
91. Deputy Jen Cummins asked the Minister for Education and Youth if she will report on her Department’s forward planning for special education places in the academic year 2026-27. [70886/25]
I wish to ask about the report on the Department’s forward planning for special education places in 2026-27. When I wrote this question, it was mostly to do with the portal at that time. I am now even more concerned since the announcement in relation to assessment of need by the Minister for children. I am just wondering about those two things. I know I got a letter from the Minister of State earlier this week or late last week with regard to the portal. I am concerned, however, because you still cannot log on and no parent is able to access it. I just want to see how this is going to be done. I know the question echoes previous questions, but I ask it in light of the new assessment of need situation. I thank the Minister of State very much.
Budget 2026 provides funding for 3,000 new special educational places within our education system for the 2026-27 school year. As the number of special classes and special schools continues to grow, there is also additional capacity created each year through the natural movement of children from primary to post-primary, leaving post-primary and with vacancies in individual classes.
In order to ensure new special classes can open as quickly as possible, the National Council for Special Education and the Department of education are prioritising working with medium and large primary schools that do not already have a special class and have available accommodation or a building to accommodate a new special class, as well post-primary schools with no special class or just one. This approach maximises the use of existing space that can be established and made to conform quickly and efficiently, while also ensuring new provision continues to be established. It also increases the number of schools with special classes, providing parents with greater choice and reducing the distances some students are travelling to access a special class place.
The Department and the NCSE have also had significant engagement with school patron bodies and school management bodies as part of the forward planning. The NCSE is undertaking analysis of the information provided through the parents notification process, which closed on 1 October, to plot the demand for special class places for 2026-27. The NCSE will also consider vacant places in existing special classes and places that will become available through the regular transition of students through the system. Once this analysis is completed, the NCSE will be equipped to engage with schools to open new special classes in relevant areas.
The NCSE expects to start sanctioning new special classes for the 2026-27 school year this week.
This is four months earlier than last year and will bring clarity to parents and schools as to where classes will be located.
I will come back to some of the other points the Deputy made in my follow-up response.
My concern is that when the portal closed on 1 October, parents were no longer able to apply. Was that a way of saying that, for example, 600 parents applied for their children through the portal and we were able to provide those places? The vacant places that the Minister of State talks about, and I have raised this previously, are phantom places because if there are children at home without an appropriate school place, it does not matter how many vacant places we have. If they are not appropriate, they are a waste of space and a waste for a child.
I am also concerned about the issue of assessment of need. If we are taking away the need for an assessment of need to gain a special educational place but there will be an educational aspect to it, who is going to do that? Are they going to be qualified to do it? If a child rocks up to a school in September, how will the school forward plan for the needs of that child? How do we make sure that the school is the appropriate school for that child? I am really concerned that we have not got a handle on that. We are now entering into a new phase in terms of how we allocate places when we have not managed the phase we are currently in.
We have developed an extremely convoluted system of getting appropriate school places for children. That system was developed over many years and it causes frustration for families, children and school communities.
I will deal with the 1 October deadline first. The deadline was brought back from 1 February to 1 October to get a better handle on the system and to understand the level of need earlier in the school year. We will be sanctioning classes in the next couple of days, which is four months earlier than last year. That will be rolled out over quarter 1 of 2026, which will give greater certainty.
In terms of the assessment of need, it is a key component. We have constantly said that parents do not have to have an assessment of need to access special education but we have to bring clarity to that. Departmental officials and the education partners are meeting today in relation to this and their work will be ongoing because we need to bring absolute clarity as to who is making the decisions. The NCSE will be critically involved in this. We need to clarify who is going to support the school communities because if we do not get this process correct, we will not get the goodwill and buy-in from education partners, which is the crucial piece. We need buy-in from parents, teachers and school communities and, most importantly, good outcomes for the children.
The plan is that the Department will allocate places over the next few days. If it then realises that there is further capacity, is the Department going to reopen the portal so that all of those late applications will be able to be considered as well? We are in one process currently, but an announcement has just been made that will affect the school year after next. It is important not to confuse the two issues because there is huge confusion and fear out there with regard to that. Will the Department be able to open up the portal again so that it can have a true vision of what is actually needed? If an assessment of need is no longer needed, how will schools know what needs a child has?
Families have been contacting the NCSE after 1 October, even though the portal is closed. They have contacted their local SENOs and the NCSE informing them that their children will need specialised places in September 2026, either in a special class in a special school or supported within a mainstream school. We will work with all of those families. We are going to continue to work with them and nobody will be forgotten within the system-----
Since 1 October, quite a number of families have contacted the NCSE-----
They are being turned away. I am sorry to speak over the Minister of State, but they are being turned away.
-----through their SENO or directly. They have made contact through the local SENO, which is hugely important. They have contacted us and we are looking at those figures. We have brought the deadline forward to 1 October this year. We have to have a deadline because if we do not have one into the future, and if we constantly break that deadline, it will not work. We need to be sure of the numbers earlier within the system so that we can properly plan and make decisions and families can know with certainty early in quarter 1 of the year.
92. Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett asked the Minister for Education and Youth whether it is her intention to set up a redress scheme for victims of historical sexual abuse perpetrated by both lay and religious teachers in schools; and the timeline for the establishment of any such redress scheme. [70943/25]
I just got off the phone with a lovely man in his 70s. Let us call him Stephen. He was absolutely savagely abused when he was nine years old and for quite a while. It is only recently, now that he is in his 70s, that he has been able to acknowledge the damage that was done to him. He wants to know when this investigation is going to be established so that he can tell his story. He also wants to know whether people like him, whose lives were affected for their rest of their lives, will get redress for the savage abuse they suffered at school.
I thank Deputy Boyd Barrett for the question. First of all, I want to welcome him back. It is great to see him and I wish him the very best of luck in everything.
To say that I find the question in front of me and the challenges faced by survivors challenging would be an understatement. It is extremely distressing even to read or study some of the documentation in relation to this. I find it horrendous to hear the legacy that has been left and the damage that has been done to the man the Deputy calls Stephen, not just in his school years, but in his lifetime.
The Government takes revelations of historical sexual abuse in schools with the utmost seriousness and has established a commission of investigation, chaired by Mr. Justice Michael MacGrath, to investigate the handling of complaints and allegations of historical sexual abuse in schools. The commission was the principal recommendation of the report of the scoping inquiry into historical sexual abuse in day and boarding schools run by religious orders. The scoping inquiry’s report also recognised the significance of the issue of redress for survivors and their expressed wish that those running schools where child sexual abuse occurred should be held financially accountable. It recommended that consideration be given by the Government to establishing a redress scheme for survivors.
The high-level interdepartmental group established to advise the Government on the recommendations of the scoping inquiry recognised redress as an important element of accountability for survivors. The group recognises that consideration of a redress scheme may have far-reaching implications and has advised that further work needs to be undertaken to ensure that the Government is fully informed in any decision it may take. The interdepartmental group has commenced this work, is committed to meeting regularly and aims to report to the Department of education within 18 months. This will not impede the progress of the commission of investigation, which will begin its work in parallel. The commission does not have a role in relation to redress.
Stephen described to me in really emotive terms the sadistic abuse that he suffered as a nine-year-old boy and even earlier. He was savagely beaten, humiliated and stripped naked to such an extent that he fled school and never learned to read and write. He described in very emotional terms how he was never able to read bedtime stories to his children, how he imagined it was all his fault, and the shame he suffered all his life. He considered himself to be a dunce and stupid because they were the labels that were associated with him. He spoke of how his entire life was limited in terms of job opportunities. He could not admit that he could not read and write because he did not want to get into the reasons for that. He has only been able to come to terms with it and make a Garda complaint very recently. What he wants to know is when he will he get an acknowledgement and an apology from the State that allowed this to happen. When will he be able to tell his story? I note from what the Minister of State has said that the timeline for this sounds worryingly long. Stephen is in his 70s. Hopefully, he will be here for quite a while yet but people are getting old and they need to know they are going to have some opportunity to tell their story and get redress soon.
I take that point. I have met many families and survivors who have suffered enormous trauma such as the Deputy has outlined. Horrendous crimes were committed against them. People pass on and the family, the next generation, carry that challenge in respect of how their parents were treated in school. It is not just for the victims themselves but for the families. In many of the cases I have been involved with, the families have really been challenged. There is one commitment that I will give. The interdepartmental group has commenced its work. That work is ongoing. The group is meeting very regularly. The report is to be within the Department. There is a huge amount of work to be done. It has to be done meticulously and correctly. The group is committed to reporting within the 18 months. It is very important that the timeline is stuck to because, as the Deputy has said, many of the survivors are getting on in years. They really want some kind of closure - I mean that in the broadest possible sense because it may not be full closure - regarding the horrific crimes committed against them.
We really need a clear timeline. That needs to happen soon. I am also worried that the terms of reference of this investigation may exclude people because of the type of abuse they suffered. What I described to the Minister of State was absolutely horrendous abuse. Whether it falls within a strict definition of sexual abuse is debatable but it was sadistic, brutal and life-changing abuse. Today, when he was describing the physical and mental damage done to him, he expressed concern about his classmates who also suffered this abuse. He does not know what happened to them but he is still worried about that and about the damage that was done to them because it was so savage and brutal. What he wants is a clear assurance and for the Minister of State or the Government to say that he will get an apology and an opportunity to tell his story and that there will be some redress for the lifelong damage done to him through the sadistic abuse he endured.
I will give the Deputy a commitment that we will work to make sure the timelines set out within the system are adhered to. A lot of work is ongoing across Government Departments in that regard. I appreciate that commitments are often given in relation to timelines but then, for a number of reasons, those timelines are not met. This cannot be missed. It has to be on time. Over the past 30 or 40 years, we have dealt with revelations and issues relating to abuse in our school system. We are still trying to come to terms with that. Cases are still coming forward, as we have recently seen in the courts. I will make sure the timelines we have set out are met for every individual who suffered within the school system. There is a lot of work to be done but the documentation I have been given says it will be done within 18 months. I will work to that timeline and report back to the House as soon as possible.